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Steve
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Registered: 30th Mar 02
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22nd May 07 at 19:02   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just seen that they are now trialing these pay as you go driving schemes in 10 places in the UK

i thought this country was meant to be a democracy?
Butler
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22nd May 07 at 19:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

are you gonna leave?
wilson_sri
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22nd May 07 at 19:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What the fuck is pay as you go? My cars not a fucking phone!
Butler
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22nd May 07 at 19:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its a bit stupid on top of petrol costs, like that isnt enought to keep a car running as it is
wilson_sri
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22nd May 07 at 19:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What so i have to pay to pay for petrol?
CorsAsh
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22nd May 07 at 19:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Woo, I leave tomorrow
Steve
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22nd May 07 at 19:10   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by wilson_sri
What the fuck is pay as you go? My cars not a fucking phone!


you get a black box in your car, and you pay per mile you drive

aside from this the govt. can see your exact whereabouts at all times, and exact speed
CorsAsh
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22nd May 07 at 19:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

About time we had a revolution methinks.
PaulW
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22nd May 07 at 19:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

garage + 12V Battery == sorted...
wilson_sri
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22nd May 07 at 19:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by wilson_sri
What the fuck is pay as you go? My cars not a fucking phone!


you get a black box in your car, and you pay per mile you drive

aside from this the govt. can see your exact whereabouts at all times, and exact speed

Thats got to be a fucking joke surely?
dan_c4rsa
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22nd May 07 at 19:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im smashing mine up if we get them.

they can send me to jail for all i care.
Robin
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22nd May 07 at 19:16   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'll be sticking mine on my mum's car. She does less miles than me.
Steve
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22nd May 07 at 19:16   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nope, 4 million+ people signed a petition against it, seems it doesnt matter who objects to anything in this so called democracy

i can see serious riots kicking off about this
dan_c4rsa
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22nd May 07 at 19:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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nope, 4 million+ people signed a petition against it, seems it doesnt matter who objects to anything in this so called democracy

i can see serious riots kicking off about this


true - and i reckon it'll encourage uninsured/untaxed drivers so they can't be given one.




clever clever government................
Robin
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22nd May 07 at 19:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Steve, it is a democracy, you were allowed to sign a petition, surely that's good enough?

In a dictatorship, there would have been no petition.

[/sarcasm]
Nic Barnes
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22nd May 07 at 19:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its electronic. there will be ways of tricking it, like a superchip or something. dont worry. ebay will be flooded with black box resistor mods for 99p
neil h
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22nd May 07 at 19:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

tis all well and good saying 'where gonna put a blackbox in your car'. but its already been proven with roadangels and there equivalent that the signals needed can't actually penetrate the body/windows of a car any way.
dan_c4rsa
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22nd May 07 at 19:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i think what steve means is that even though we sign stuff, they never ever seem to actually listen to the public signing the lists carrying on regardless as long as they 'meet their targets' and get some dosh.

anywhere close?
Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Steve, it is a democracy, you were allowed to sign a petition, surely that's good enough?

In a dictatorship, there would have been no petition.

[/sarcasm]


thing is, i know you aprove of it. youve turned really gay robin.
Toby
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Originally posted by CorsAsh
Woo, I leave tomorrow


bye ash, make me a nice vag car sick of corsa's
Dave A
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22nd May 07 at 19:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I cant see how they will ever make a reliable black box system, to be fitted to the car they MUST be fused, the fuse must also be serviceable by law.

just fit a blown fuse, go for a drive. simple.

even car manufacturers that develop the most complex immobiliser systems cant make them 100% impossible to bypass. I have managed to bypass the 1997> Vaux immobiliser system with 100 worth of tools and a wiring diagram downloaded off the net, a black box wont be hard to sort out.
Robin
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22nd May 07 at 19:21   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I know Dan, I waas agreeing with him about the country not being very democratic TBH.
dan_c4rsa
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22nd May 07 at 19:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmmm then i musta miss read dude. sorry haha.

i might stick the box to one of my dumps when i flush the bog and see what bill i get for the distance it travels...........
Colin
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22nd May 07 at 19:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Surely they cannot enforce this? Maybe if they started fitting on brand new cars like they did airbags & cats etc but I cant see them making people take there car to get a black box bolted into it, hell if they do they'll be getting told to fuck right off, i'll just keep my 16yr old golf & stick the latest engine in it
willhouse
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22nd May 07 at 19:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they are doing it in south yorkshire too-

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