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All Torque
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11th May 07 at 10:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
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Originally posted by jr
what the fuck do you want it to do then, have fucking spider sense to sense its 3/10th quicker FFS, its quicker, end off

weather you notice its quicker is a whole diffrent matter


But the first fucking post stated it feels quicker, i stated it won't be noticeably quicker and you lot are fucking haveing a go.


its because we dont like you steve

it will be and feel quicker




My two cents worth:
I took out my rear seats in the Xsara and it was noticeable. I then took out the spare wheel, jack, tools, and everything thats behind the two front seats except for the roof lining and I managed to get the car up on 3 wheels around a corner.

I'd say that was noticeable enough..
CorsAsh
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I love this thread so much I want to have sex with it.
jr
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i reall want some 14x7's, but 15x7 would be
CorsAsh
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Get some that join in the middle under the car, be like a Corsa roadroller Dibnah style.
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Dont do 14" anymore

Firstly because they are the size we sell least and secondly because we can't seem to get hold of 14" spun aluminium rims of any quality. Got some from image wheels once for a one off.......load of crap
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I was thinking of taking my rear seats out tonight in my 12v, to see if I noticed any difference

Think I would notice any difference?

[Edited on 11-05-2007 by Wonderboy]
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Wonderboy
I was thinking of taking my rear seats out tonight in my 12v, to see if I noticed any difference

Think I would notice any difference?

[Edited on 11-05-2007 by Wonderboy]


from the last 7 pages i doubt you'll need my opinion!
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Wonderboy
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Yea, I know you think it makes no 'noticeable' difference, but a few people said that it's most noticeable in small engined cars.
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Rob H
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quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
Standard best time - 17.82 seconds

Best time stripped out - 17.12 seconds

Ok this could be due to launch and tarmac conditions etc...
but its proof enough for me.




Track temp, air temp, wind conditions, fuel levels etc etc

Then there are quesitions of condition of engine? Tyre conditions (same tyres, diff tyres etc etc), yadda yadda yadda. It's fairly indicative, but not exact unless you did the same two runs on the same day or at least in the same conditions etc.

Basically, in my opinion I can see where Steve is coming from. I tried all manor of swapping and changing in my old car: sub box in/out, rear seats in/out, full tank/empty tank, spare wheel/removed etc etc and combinations of some or all of them.

IMO the car never felt any quicker, although laws of physics tells me that it will have been quicker.

Personally I don't think you can underestimate the power of the placebo effect with stuff like this, especially when you get alot more road noise into the cabin, so it sounds alot more raw than it does with the rear seats in.

End of the day do a simple test - a corsa tank holds 40 litres of fuel, so it's gonna weigh 40kg roughly - about the same as the stuff in the rear of the car. Drive the car in anger with a near empty tank, then fill it up and do the sasme bit fo road again. If you think it feels faster, strip the back out (and only ever fill up with 10 of fuel!)
mattk
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I didnt see any difference when I stripped my 1.2 8v..... for a night, its bloody uncomfy though
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lol ive just read all 7 pages and it dawned on me people have spent the entir 7 pages arguing with steve over a something he agreed on, he always said it would be faster but it just wouldnt be noticble that much on an average car.

Yet for 7 pages people have kained him saying it would be faster stripped, which he agreed with in the first page lol.

My 2 cents, i had two heavy mates in my car last night must weight 80kg each easy, the car did feel slower but not very much at all.
Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
lol ive just read all 7 pages and it dawned on me people have spent the entir 7 pages arguing with steve over a something he agreed on, he always said it would be faster but it just wouldnt be noticble that much on an average car.

Yet for 7 pages people have kained him saying it would be faster stripped, which he agreed with in the first page lol.

My 2 cents, i had two heavy mates in my car last night must weight 80kg each easy, the car did feel slower but not very much at all.


HHOOOOOORRAAHHHHH xxxx
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I regualy have 2-5 people in my car and I can tell the difference when one mate is in thats an extra 80 kilos, Corsa rear seats and door cards dont weigh 80 kilos, to strip 80 kilos out a corsa would have to be hardcore stripping
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suppose it depends on the car i dont notice much when i have 3 mates in as i have a big car with a 2 litre engine.

when i had my wift gti 100bhp and 800kg odd it didnt move much at all when i had 3 heavy mates in lol.
Rob H
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quote:
Originally posted by mattk
To strip 80 kilos out a corsa would have to be hardcore stripping


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Cupra Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by mattk
Corsa rear seats and door cards dont weigh 80 kilos, to strip 80 kilos out a corsa would have to be hardcore stripping


precisely! After 7 pages and 12 hours people see my point! The weight in the back of a corsa won't be more than 40kilos. My gf probably weighs slightly more and in my little tin can i don't notice the difference when she is in the car.
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I'll stick her in the boot tonight to see if it makes a difference.
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Am i going to have to weigh everything ive taken out ust to see what weight it is?
Cupra Steve
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Actually i drove 2 miles with my mate in the boot of my Ibiza, and i was driving like a nutter, made no difference to the handling, it was still shit.
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Am i going to have to weigh everything ive taken out ust to see what weight it is?


TBH if you can i would genuinely be interested.
Mike GSi
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after tuesday im goin to take out everything in the rear and weigh it.... i bet it weighs less than 1 bag of cement (25k)
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when mine was stripped for the night i took the front door cards, the rar door cards the parcel shelf and the rear seats (Cause i was fitting my GSi interior the next day) Took the spare wheel out as well just to see the difference, I didnt see any to be honest
Mike GSi
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quote:
Originally posted by Cupra Steve
quote:
Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
Am i going to have to weigh everything ive taken out ust to see what weight it is?


TBH if you can i would genuinely be interested.



im gonna do it

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