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langey
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   17th Aug 05 at 17:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wel as the title says, maybe its just me being paranoid, but i seem to have lost quite a bit of water, and the car seems to be missfiring at low revs between 1-3k

when lee had the car he said the same, but he opend her up and there was to cylinders ful of water! sparkplugs and that all rusty as fuck, anywya lee fixed this, replaced plugs with brand spankers,

but now it seems to be happing again

shall i take the spark plugs out and see if there is water in there again or what?
the water is also not excellently clean, its a wee bit manky as in oil manky

anyone any suggestions, or do all xe's do this at low revs?

also on starting her up, she sometime a bit shy, she always starts (touch's wood) but it seems top struggle a wee bit, my mate started up a calibra in his yard with a redtop in it, and that seem to start sluggish too, so maybe its em all or just our 2
bubble
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17th Aug 05 at 17:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it hasn't got a pourous head has it?
langey
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
it hasn't got a pourous head has it?


who knows, i dont know the difference.

why?
bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
it hasn't got a pourous head has it?


who knows, i dont know the difference.

why?



a pourous head will allow coolant to mix with oil, or sometimes allow coolant into cylinder bore-usually confirmed by bores with coolant in and plugs that smell off coolant. very common problem with the GM cylinder heads.
Adam_B
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17th Aug 05 at 18:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes take the plugs out and have a look.
bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
yes take the plugs out and have a look.


like he says.

if u do have water in the bores u r looking at either

1)head gasket
2)cracked cylinder head
3)porous cylinder head


this will explain why its struggling because coolant wont combust.
langey
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17th Aug 05 at 18:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i need a special tool to get the plugs out??

if there is water there, then is the engine fucked or what??

its out a 92 cav gsi
langey
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17th Aug 05 at 18:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
yes take the plugs out and have a look.


like he says.

if u do have water in the bores u r looking at either

1)head gasket
2)cracked cylinder head
3)porous cylinder head


this will explain why its struggling because coolant wont combust.


this is why i put the xe in in the 1st place, the 1.4 head cracked
Adam_B
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17th Aug 05 at 18:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

while the plugs are out you can do a compression test as well.
langey
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
while the plugs are out you can do a compression test as well.


i can do one or a specialist can do one?
Adam_B
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17th Aug 05 at 18:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if you can change a spark plug you can do a compression test, will need a tester tho, 15-20 in halfrauds or if you can get down my way i have one you can borrow
langey
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
if you can change a spark plug you can do a compression test, will need a tester tho, 15-20 in halfrauds or if you can get down my way i have one you can borrow


well i recon if i boot it to yours, by the time i get there i'll know the problem. but where is yours? and when could i pop up?
bubble
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it screws in where the plug sits, wind car over and it displays the compression in each individual cylinder.
Adam_B
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J27 M6, any night this week after 7 is fine.
langey
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17th Aug 05 at 18:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just been on the phone to someone there, he syas theres no point in doing a compression test, as its only doing it at low revs not all the time

what time you avalable till adam? might pop up after ya see, or if not, tomoz.
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im in all night, doing a few bits on the corsa whilst trying to change the clutch on my MR2 with the other hand Dont bother if its after 10 tho, neighbours will moan at me
Adam_B
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txt me if your coming
langey
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i'll bell you if i'm coming tonight, ifnot it will more than likly be tomoz, (if its still alive)
corsa_godfather
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
quote:
Originally posted by langey
quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
it hasn't got a pourous head has it?


who knows, i dont know the difference.

why?



a pourous head will allow coolant to mix with oil, or sometimes allow coolant into cylinder bore-usually confirmed by bores with coolant in and plugs that smell off coolant. very common problem with the GM cylinder heads.


would getting the head skimmed not stop this?
Mistamist
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17th Aug 05 at 21:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nope, its caused by the metal of the head between the coolant galleries and the oil galleries becoming porus (allowing the liquids to pass through.)

is there white smoke coming from exhaust?

loss of water may just be a loose jubilee clip or a tiny split in a pipe.

Adam-D
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no you have to have the head sealed
langey
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well just been out all nite in her, no smoke from exhaust, mate said its not missfiring its just me being paranoid, but when we took the top off the water tank, it was full to the top water pissin out.

so who knows maybe its just me being worried, maybe i'm not. i'll take the plugs out tomoz and see if there is water in, just for peace of mind.

mate said i should get the cat off too as its restricting it as it is for a 1.4 not a 2.0.
Twiggy
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quote:
Originally posted by langey
well just been out all nite in her, no smoke from exhaust, mate said its not missfiring its just me being paranoid, but when we took the top off the water tank, it was full to the top water pissin out.

so who knows maybe its just me being worried, maybe i'm not. i'll take the plugs out tomoz and see if there is water in, just for peace of mind.

mate said i should get the cat off too as its restricting it as it is for a 1.4 not a 2.0.


when mine went in the get made a decat pipe....?

Adam is selling the stright through???
Nic Barnes
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18th Aug 05 at 00:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get rid of the 1400 system, engine wont rev up s quickly, will be forcing the crap out. did it on my red xe bus, changed it for 2 inch twin box no cat and never missed a beat.

know what you mean about being paranoid, dont think you'd last 2 mins in my car with all the random noises it makes old boy
Adam-D
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cudda been an airlock?

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