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BeArDy
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30th Mar 05 at 14:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Teddy
Strip is fair comment but drivability on the a and b roads - the 1.6 would win hands down to be honest.


alot but that was the question
Best one to look at for handling is BAT's rally car its a 1.6 200+bhp and will out handle most things.....
Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
well i think andys spec is a bit wilder than what i mean.... is there any c16xe of Tb's pushing 150/160/170 BHP?


That would be interesting to be honest.
I have completed this convertion myself - the 20XE is so done and dusted to be honest - not saying its not good but just done to death a little now?
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
Andys did a 6.04 0-60 and a 14.65 1/4 (baring in mind was was 200+bhp at the time)


quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
bring on the std c20xe times

14.4 anyone


both cars are stripped out both have lightened wheels etc etc
think its the best your going to get

so looking at them 2

a mild tune 1.6 would loose to a XE (as andys was mad tuned and over 200bhp)

exception the this would be LeeM old car as that thing was quick for little mods it all seamed to work right together


[Edited on 30-03-2005 by BeArDy]
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30th Mar 05 at 14:07   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
surely aks is a little more stripped than andys?!
BeArDy
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Originally posted by broster
surely aks is a little more stripped than andys?!


come on its as close are your going to get, and even then adams would weight more as he has the 2lt 16v up front, where andy has the lighter engine
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30th Mar 05 at 14:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
hmmmm interesting..... anyone have a 2.0 they wanna ship to me for nuthin?
Teddy
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30th Mar 05 at 14:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
1.6 dude.........
Siberia
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30th Mar 05 at 14:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
thing that annoys me is that i have the 1.6.. and the management.... getting zorst next week... all i need is the trumpets
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omex.........................dribble
BeArDy
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30th Mar 05 at 14:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
dont you just love having bits and bobs laying about the house
Teddy
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
thing that annoys me is that i have the 1.6.. and the management.... getting zorst next week... all i need is the trumpets


BUY THEM
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My statment about a 215bhp 1.6 having less tourqe than a 2litre was only to show how little tourqe is gained modding the 1.6, i was no way saying a 215bhp corsa wouldnt beat a standard C20XE'd one it would wipe the floor with it, get a C20XE otherwise you will regret it, the managment will work on the C20XE too
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ya also need, the throttles and inlet manfold, linkage, fuel rail regulator etc etc lol
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30th Mar 05 at 14:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
As Ive said before a good balance of power for a Corsa is about 160bhp. Ideally this would be acheived from a 1.6 on throttle bodies as the main part of its tune.

At that power it would be semi reliable as well I reckon.
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30th Mar 05 at 14:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
but a standard C20XE will be as quick and even more reliable, plus ya dont have to drive it around at +5500rpm to find the power
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quote:
Originally posted by Greasemonkey
but a standard C20XE will be as quick and even more reliable, plus ya dont have to drive it around at +5500rpm to find the power


Yeah but its been done a million times and the heavy engine in the front upsets whats already a poor handling car!

........oh, and the sound of throttle bodies! Mmmmmm
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30th Mar 05 at 14:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
if we are talking the best all round car i would go for the 1.6 16v on TB, for handling, power, track use etc i agree with Stu.
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30th Mar 05 at 15:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Up the 1/4 mile the 16XE engines are wank.
Jambo
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i do not beleive all these weight differences ppl talk about.

I had an x14xe now have an LET.

The handling differencer is almost unnoticable
Jambo
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30th Mar 05 at 18:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Apart from the torque steer
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30th Mar 05 at 19:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
i do not beleive all these weight differences ppl talk about.

I had an x14xe now have an LET.

The handling differencer is almost unnoticable


I keep telling people this
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30th Mar 05 at 19:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
small block tunning is the way forwards
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WHEN ARE PPL GONNA LISTEN, SINCE I HAD MY VALVER I HAVE NOTICED NO DIFFERENCE IN HANDLING, FACT ID SAY ITS BETTER AS EXTRA WEIGHT AT FRONT HAS STOPPED THE UNDERSTEER I GET


ITS A F**KIN MYTH

2.0 corsas are not that quick its just for 1500 quid u get a better starting point with power, and siberia greasemonkey should no what he's talkin about as like broster he owned a high tuned 1600cc
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30th Mar 05 at 20:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i totally agree mate, iven driven my tuned 1.4/1.6 16v back to back with fads xe'd corsa which are both on koni adjustables and there is no diffrence
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30th Mar 05 at 21:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yes jr some peeps pass statements without even actually driving them

typical scenario ive had with valver i was following me m8 to mk cruise in his saxo vtr, im in valver, he absolutely ragged his car limiter in every gear upto 90-100 all i was doin was takin mine to 4-4.5 rpm and then just waited til he was at 100 and then shot right up his backside 115mph in 4TH gear and i never went NEAR 5K RPM WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM AND LEFT HIM IF I BOUNCED OFF LIMITER IN EVERY GEAR

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