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Author tried fitting fk coilovers.....help!!!!!
TOMAS
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2nd Oct 04 at 12:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
OK guys right...

HELPER SPRINGS...

These make NO difference to the performance. They are purely as some have said to stop their being a gap between the top cup and MAIN spring when you jack the car up in the air or if you are so lucky to jump the car.

If your car does this its an MOT failiure (if they spot it). Therefore removing should make no difference to ride or performance, unless you jump the car clean in the air and unseat the springs which is VERY rare unless you drive like Mr Martin.

Its clear what the problem is - you need to raise the bottom spring seat to get clearance of a et45 7" wide wheel. Couple of options...

1) remove helper springs all together.

2) get as low a poundage helper spring as possible which is slightly shoter than the std FK helpers in uncompressed length (about £10-£15 per spring)

3) get a combo of shorter MAIN springs and get as long a HELPER SPRING as possible in the lowest poundage you can find.

I could work out for people the BEST soloution if someone could provide me with...

Length of FK main spring (uncompressed).
Length of FK helper spring (uncompressed).
And if you raise the lower spring platform to a height where it does not catch the tyre I need the distance between lower spring platform and topcup when the damper is FULLY extended.

TBH the easiest solution is to remove the helper spring/double adaptor ring and wind the lower spring platform up to you correct drop (this should allow you enough clearance).
Fear
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As posted in a link i dont have the Fk helper spring i have a different helper spring and the ride is no different that i notice and the handling is great!


With the coilovers you have mate i think you are gonna have problems, wither big spacers and IMO i think your gonna need hefty 8mm+ ones! The only option is different springs or higher car!
Joff
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2nd Oct 04 at 14:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I once sold a set of the AK coilovers and the guy had 15" ET40's and they went on fine, so you'll probably need at least 10mm spacers to clear your wheels.
Ant
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quote:
Originally posted by CheekyCorsa
As posted in a link i dont have the Fk helper spring i have a different helper spring and the ride is no different that i notice and the handling is great!


I have those same small helper springs i haven't fitted the kit yet though!! Did you manage to get the double adaptor to work with the small helpers or are you running without it?
ed
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=144412

here, but is stupid imo, not really coilover anymore

Actually a coilover is always a coilover no mater what you were to do unless you were to take the pring off or empty the oil from the damper. 'Coilover' stands for 'Coil spring over oil damper' so infact even if you were to lock off the smaller spring you still have a coilover shock....
Jambo
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Hmmmm. I think im really put off by these now, so much hassle, are the benefits really worth all the hassle? Im not that technically minded, sure i can fit normal shox and springs ,but this sounds like a nightmare, if i were to have to "fiddle" with them, that means infinate trips to the garage and means beaucoup de cash.

Bilstein or koni shox n springs me thinks
stevegreetham
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2nd Oct 04 at 23:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i can see me having problems with 17" et45.
so if i have to have spacers will this sacrifice the ride quality? or will the wheels basically just poke out of the arches a little further?
cheers guts, steve
ed
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What about 18x7's and ET42... I'm gonna speak to a specialist I think...
ed
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quote:
Originally posted by stevegreetham
i can see me having problems with 17" et45.
so if i have to have spacers will this sacrifice the ride quality? or will the wheels basically just poke out of the arches a little further?
cheers guts, steve

The handling will deteriorate the more you space the wheels out...
Joff
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3rd Oct 04 at 00:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
If you have normal wheels you're fine.
the_legend_of_yrag
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3rd Oct 04 at 10:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ive got 7x 17 et38
loo_goblin
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i have 7.5x16 et 48, will i hav to get a helper spring if i buy sum highsports????
Joff
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With 7.5J wheels you'll probably need spacers too.
loo_goblin
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gayness
stevegreetham
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quote:
Originally posted by 1800ed
quote:
Originally posted by stevegreetham
i can see me having problems with 17" et45.
so if i have to have spacers will this sacrifice the ride quality? or will the wheels basically just poke out of the arches a little further?
cheers guts, steve

The handling will deteriorate the more you space the wheels out...

fook...so i will have to get some new springs then
AdiSRI
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quote:
Originally posted by loo_goblin
i have 7.5x16 et 48, will i hav to get a helper spring if i buy sum highsports????


prob need spacers, 7.5 width and ET48 is gonna be well in, i can see it fouling bad, prob need spacers and helper!
AdiSRI
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
Hmmmm. I think im really put off by these now, so much hassle, are the benefits really worth all the hassle? Im not that technically minded, sure i can fit normal shox and springs ,but this sounds like a nightmare, if i were to have to "fiddle" with them, that means infinate trips to the garage and means beaucoup de cash.

Bilstein or koni shox n springs me thinks


Its not that basd, mine only took one trip and i dont need spacers.

Get the guy that fitted mine to do it like i said as hes done mine and knows about them now
loo_goblin
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cry, r these goin to b more hassle than they r worth
stevegreetham
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right lads, with 7 x 17" et 45 dare v2's what do you think i will need to actually get these fuckers to fit?
i also just have standard arches, cheers

"Dare V2's AS NEW - 3 weeks old, with very good FALKEN Z rated 451's.
4 stud 4x100 et45 (ideal corsa fit) 17" with 205/40/17's " will cheekycorsas method allow these to fit?

[Edited on 03-10-2004 by stevegreetham]
Siberia
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to be honest when or if these things break on my car i'mm gonna get some koni yellows and some eibach springs......
stevegreetham
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right peeps, do i go the cheekycorsa route and get new very soft springs from BAT OR do i pull out of the highsport deal?
i'm very confuzzled at the moment and think with the dares i will have no end of problems
Siberia
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BAT dont have the smaller springs and if they did they wont sell them to you cos u didnt buy yer coilovers there....

toby in rimstyle has a set of these smaller helper springs for me but i dont want them so u can take them off him....
stevegreetham
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nice one mate, will they deffo work? and allow my wheels to fit? or is it trial and error?
Siberia
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yoyu will deffo get the wheels to fit.. the problem is will the car be low enough... this will depend of the wheels and tyres u have.....
stevegreetham
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ahhhhh i see. so with the helper springs the car sits higher? or lower? wheel and tyre details are above. cheers for the help dude

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