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MODDEDCORSAGSI
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21st Jan 04 at 00:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

dus ne1 on here kno how 2 do it, dus it gain u extra acceleration!!??
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not really plus it makes you look like a gimp imo
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21st Jan 04 at 00:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lol yea but i fucks gearbox......
AK
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21st Jan 04 at 00:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote



does it gain u extra acceleration.

I hope your car still has a syncromesh in its gearbox.... you do not need to do it.

It'll slow you down, not speed you up




Too much fast and the furious for you lad
J da Silva
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21st Jan 04 at 00:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

not really unless u have a 40litre quadruple turbocharged v50 under your bonnet

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LOL harsh yea ull look a gimp tryin it as u will wheelspin....and go nowhere
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21st Jan 04 at 00:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it's double declutching and is only really needed on larger lorries that have non-triptronic multi-gate gearboxes (most artics have 16 gears).

they depress the clutch, move to neutral, release the clutch. Depress the clutch again and engage gear.

To do it in a car is pointless, will wear your clutch out a bit quicker, slow your changes down and if you cock it up (and you will) then play a hand in your next gearbox change being a bit sooner than it should be.

hth
MODDEDCORSAGSI
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21st Jan 04 at 00:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lol, my m8 dus it in his16v sri and it goes lyk shit off a shovel compered 2 my old gsi!
AK
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21st Jan 04 at 00:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no.... i think you mean he 'pops' the clutch to raise the revs
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lol yep 2 many fast and furious vids LOL
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21st Jan 04 at 00:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Some one has been watching the fast and the furious!

"Dude, i almost had you"
"You almost had me?..." "You never had me, you never had your car". "Granny shifting and not DOUBLE CLUTCHING like you should!"


Vin Petrol is the man!!!!
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yes i think thats more like wat he does,

think about it logically, which is quicker?

either putting your foot onto the clutch and putting it from 1st to 2nd then releasing the clutch

or

putting the clutch down from 1st to neatrul then lift off clutch, then press clutch again and move it into 2nd then release clutch.

i think you may fond the 1st is the quickest,

so if it takes longer to do DDC the your gunna loose acceleration
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21st Jan 04 at 00:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

of course, the quickest way is to try and mimic a bike's quick-shift by pre-loading the stick with a tiny bit of outward pressure (not enough to begin disengaging and making the lovely crunch-o-rama noise!).

push the clutch firm but not to the floor, the moment there is enough load taken by the clutch the stick will move and you can slip it in smooth to the next gear, and as the clutch moves up the gas moves down so the revs should match as the clutch engages and you carry on without having to pick up lost rpm's

hth.
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thing is paul that you may as well just have the foot toward the gas a split second earlier and still get the blip.

plus the way to do the blip is while the clutch is fully depressed so the revs are high and should just about match road-speed when the clutch is brought out.

slightly slow revving speeds on a car mean timing is quite hard for the average pleb.

but that's just simple performance driving. most bikers do it.
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not happy with yer technique paul? that was a fast delete! - lol
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21st Jan 04 at 00:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my wife is quite happy with my technique
Paul_J
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eh? no el gordo - just you explained what I was trying to explain far better. So I removed mine. You must of been replying while mine had disapeared...

I meant what you said, I've also got a bike, and that was the sorta point I was trying to put across, but was finding it hard to do it step by step explaining.
el gordo
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it's ok

i need to make more judicious use of smilies - lol.


vibrio - she may be happy but is she ecstatic? If not tell her I play the piano and have a throbbing beast between my legs every morning and evening that she's welcome to sit on
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
my wife is quite happy with my technique


wots that like?

put ya foot down
pull ya knob
lift ya foot back up again?

el gordo
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fiddle with random buttons and get confused when you don't have the desired effect, so just start slapping the dash in frustration?
Patrick
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I always thought double clutching was better used for decelleration, like slowing down for a bend, keeps the revs up. (racing use)
Ditch
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21st Jan 04 at 09:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thats just like blipping the throttle to match the road speed tho aint it patrick?
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21st Jan 04 at 10:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you need to release the clutch inbetween when your blipping the throttle

clutch down
disengage gear
clutch up
blip throttle
clutch down
engage gear
clutch out

if your getting it right then there should be no lurch when dropping gears for over taking etc

heel & toe downshifts is what patrick is on about i think, which combines double clutching and braking
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21st Jan 04 at 12:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

all the racing talk is comming out today

why not throw in a scandinavian flick for good measure
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg12v
all the racing talk is comming out today

why not throw in a scandinavian flick for good measure


because they are discussing gear changes, not manoovers (sp)

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