GAVINO BAMBINO
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Just out of interest what would be fastest a 106 gti, a corsa sport 1.6 or a saxo vts? i think the 1.6 corsa sport runs at around 110 bhp but not sure about the others????? cheers ppl
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DC
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I think the 106 and the Vts would walk all over the Sport to be honest. But thats why we put 2.0ltr 16v in em
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DC
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lol, that dint work. It said the Sport has 105bhp, 0-62 is 9.0 and top out at 121
The 106 gti is 8.7 to 62 and does 127mph with 120bhp
and finally the vts has 120bhp and does 127mph lik the 106 but is quicker to 62 with a time of 8.2
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blackula
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The 2.2 Sri is a tad quicker than a VTS, if you are good enough to get a good start and give it enough beans, then after about 80, it would romp ahead, the 0-100 time is about 2 secs quicker but thats a sizeable gap by then.
There is no doubt the VTS is quick, I was driving a Zafira Gsi from work and i was booting it and this VTS was sticking to me, only when I got to like 11) was he getting lost. But then again who wants a Saxo, my VTR literally fell to bits, cut out in the outside lane of M1 at 80 mph during busy period too.
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Originally posted by DC
lol, that dint work. It said the Sport has 105bhp, 0-62 is 9.0 and top out at 121
The 106 gti is 8.7 to 62 and does 127mph with 120bhp
and finally the vts has 120bhp and does 127mph lik the 106 but is quicker to 62 with a time of 8.2
both VTS and GTi would be evenly matched, and actually 0-60 im mid 7's as standard. Much faster than Corsa Sport 1.6's. But then again you got that X16XE lump to tune in the corsa and 200bhp isnt impossible, and thats NA.
Dave
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Originally posted by Greasemonkey
would a 2litre 16v corsa beat a shitty saxo VTS
thinking about this conversion
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my mate has a vts with a 421 manifold, btb full zorst system and a green forced air induction kit and its fast as fuck about 150 bhp
I doubt 30bhp is possible from these mods 
Youi doubt, but its true. The 16v lumps respond very well to a good air filter unit and full exhaust system. I've seen many a saxo on the Rollers with these mods or similar (different makes) make 145-155bhp.
For once you said something correct
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DC
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2ltr 16v Corsa should walk all over a standard Vts. More so after 60 tho
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DC
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Originally posted by DC
lol, that dint work. It said the Sport has 105bhp, 0-62 is 9.0 and top out at 121
The 106 gti is 8.7 to 62 and does 127mph with 120bhp
and finally the vts has 120bhp and does 127mph lik the 106 but is quicker to 62 with a time of 8.2
both VTS and GTi would be evenly matched, and actually 0-60 im mid 7's as standard. Much faster than Corsa Sport 1.6's. But then again you got that X16XE lump to tune in the corsa and 200bhp isnt impossible, and thats NA.
Dave
The figures I quoted r the official standard figures for all 3 cars. Not saying u wudnt c quicker times on the clock but not sure any1 could argue that would b accuate!!!
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Cybermonkey
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Listen, official figures that PSA give out (peogeot, Citroen etc) are normally done with a full tank of fuel, passengers and luggage. This is to trick the insurance companies so that the cars appear in a lower insurance bracket etc. Figures for standard GTi's/VTS's are below 8 seconds, and my Corsa Sport 1.6 can do 0-60 in 8.7 seconds. A fair bit slower than a GTi/VTS, my car is almost standard bar a drilled airbox. i was timed using Garmin GPS.
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DC
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not arguing the Corsa's a bit slower than the GTi or Vts. & 8.7 with a drilled airbox isnt far off the standard quoted 9.0. As for the Vts being quoted as 8.2 cos it was done with a full tank of fuel and luggage. Am sure that would slow it down more than the half second difference between the OFFICIAL 8.2 seconds and the sub 8 your talking about.
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I always thought Insurance was on value, cost of repair, power output, crash statisitics of previous models or similar and likely age groupto drive. However in the States the muscle cars used to be downplated in the power outputs for insurance. Like quoting 250 bhp from a 383 hemi instead of 420 bhp. And more young men lost their lives behind the wheel of a Muscle car than in Vietnam or something like that.
We think its bad to let kids out in a VTS, try a 400 bhp big barge with drum brakes that won't go round corners.
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Sooty
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106gti to 60 will be on par or quicker than a 2 litre corsa... power to weight.
7.4 seconds... yes they will wank
ive had 135mph on the clocks of my gti standard. No not true, but on the clocks
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Sooty
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8.7 is the car loaded up with a load of shite
check any decent car mag for the proper figure... WHATCAR mag or EVO mag etc
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DC
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106gti to 60 will be on par or quicker than a 2 litre corsa... power to weight.
7.4 seconds... yes they will wank
ive had 135mph on the clocks of my gti standard. No not true, but on the clocks
Ya might have a chance to 60 but a 2.0ltr 16v Corsa would waste a standard 106 gti after that. ppl with 2.0ltr Novas and Corsa's c 150 on the clock (obviously not doin that)
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your assuming a standard GTi is 120bhp
some had more like steve's for example... 134bhp RR'd standard...
waste? I think your over exaggerating here mate... there is like 1-2 seconds difference to 100... again assuming a GTi is standard and knowin the correct power output. Also the engine is EXTREMELY happy when modified, respond's really well.
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i quite recently saw a stripped out 106 gti on throttle bodies run VERY low 13s at santa pod, breeny.co.uk's 2.0 16v turbo nova ran 13.6@107mph at santa pod so im sure that a slightly tinkered with 106 gti would give a 2.0 16v corsa a damn good run for its money
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DC
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I stand corrected Sooty sounds lik the 16v Gti engine is a proper bit of kit!!
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Sooty
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it loves to be S/C or TB's... id go S/C myself, but of course then there is the reliability factor... 160bhp can be achieved without hitting TB's and 160bhp in a 106 is chronic
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saxos are tin cans and look filthy
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sxi boy
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FFS a 2ltr corsa will not walk all over a saxo vts at all, it would be very close as the power to weight ratios would be the same. the saxo will nail any corsa round the bends
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ljames555
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3 options for july
was finkin of 2.0 16 valve conv in my corsa
or vts
or gti-6
feel free to giv me any otha options
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sxi boy
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vts or pug 106 gti, u'll notice a dip in builld quality but the performance is more than worth it
an excellent starting point for modding 
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ljames555
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i was finkin more vts but my m8 has a gti-6 ( 306) (4 those who dont no) and dont really wana get same as him but got told they leave vts but according 2 parkers only top speed can do vts but few engine mods things mite b differ
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sxi boy
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they wont leave a vts by much but they're definately quicker std for std
another good thing about the vts is that it does respond well to simple mods like filter, de-cat, full zorst etc
and as far as handling is concerned its abslutely top notch
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