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Cybermonkey
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16th Aug 03 at 14:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Their lack of 8 valves really shows up when approaching 100mph dont they! For a car with 6 BHP less than my sport, they really get embaressed. What are torque figures for the VTR?

Clive
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i have 112lb/ft @ 3750 and 103lb/ft @ 5500 in my VTR

113BHP @ 5500
Simon L
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i wouldnt say its down to the valves.

more the cam.

why are you comparing a sport to a vtr? why not a VTS? it has 16 valves. ha ha ha.
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yeah but the VTS weighs half of my corsa (probably)
Simon L
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so now your comparing weight?

lmfao
Cybermonkey
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well they are!!
Simon L
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a 106 rallye is quicker than a sport.

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and the VTS is over 20BHP more than the Sport 1.6.
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon L
a 106 rallye is quicker than a sport.

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Yes it is. I ate my crayon.
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I have 8v but I am quicker
Simon L
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well first you were comparing a 1.6 16v to a 1.6 8v, saying the 8v was slow because it only had 8v's

then saying you cant compare it to a 16v vts because it weighs less

now your saynig you cant compare it to a vts because it has more power

you are a tool
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forced induction is naughty.
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon L
well first you were comparing a 1.6 16v to a 1.6 8v, saying the 8v was slow because it only had 8v's

then saying you cant compare it to a 16v vts because it weighs less

now your saynig you cant compare it to a vts because it has more power

you are a tool


I am a tool of destruction. I am impressed with the VTR's ability up to 60mph, but after that the mid range torque just fades away to nothing. Thats all i was saying.
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and no accepting that a 1.6 8v rallye is faster than a 16. 16v sport

so its not down to the number of valves my monkey friend.

it is a number of different factors.
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you are a tool



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Cyber mate dig yourself a hole!
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16th Aug 03 at 14:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
and i was saying i cant compare a sport to a VTS because it has nearly 20bhp more than the Sport, as well as being lighter. I was comparing the lighhter VTR with the heavier sport in actual fact.
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon L
and no accepting that a 1.6 8v rallye is faster than a 16. 16v sport

so its not down to the number of valves my monkey friend.

it is a number of different factors.


This is simply because of the tuned 1.3/1.6 engine that is put into the rallyes, as well as the lighter shell.
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its not as easy as comparing a lighter car with less power against a heavier car with more power.

i stand by my previous comment. you are a tool.
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I was merely commenting on their lack of strength upwards of 100mph. Is that so hard to conceive?
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16th Aug 03 at 14:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
not at all.

but you said it was down to the lack of 8v's. it is not.
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well i stand corrected. What is it down to then?
Simon L
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a number of things.
Cybermonkey
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like? the lower torque figure? What difers between the VTS and VTR apart from the number of valves?
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the vtr only has 1 cam. the vts has 2

plus a number of other things.
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so the lack of eight valves could be the reason why the VTR has less power and torque than the VTS, amongst other things?

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