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pavorotti
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6th Feb 05 at 23:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

does this make much difference to sound and acceleration?
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A decat will make your exhaust louder, a good manifold will improve performance in the low-mid range.
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gonna pay about 150 4 manifold? and decat regains more power which normal cat stops yes thats about 5 percent? is that right?
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Decat won't make any noticeable difference to power gains.
Spend double on the manifold and get something that actually works. I doubt you'll find anywhere selling decent manifolds for £150.
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my manifold cost over doule what your willing to pay, depends what you want from it, spend more and get a better one.
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Is the Janspeed manifold any good, it's £180. I've got the full Janspeed system with De-Cat and was thinkin of getting the Janspeed manifold too but wasn't sure if it was worth it.
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yes its mild steel not stainless, but that dosent mean mush really!
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quote:
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A decat will make your exhaust louder, a good manifold will improve performance in the low-mid range.


Isn't it in th emid upper range where the std manifold becomes restrictive??
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was gonna get sportex manifold and its made from mild steel 160!
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A decat will make your exhaust louder, a good manifold will improve performance in the low-mid range.


Isn't it in th emid upper range where the std manifold becomes restrictive??



Std manifold is pretty good anyway, but a decent exhaust builder should be able to tune the power so it's useable.
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16v engines don't have a low end though?? It's ok on a stdish engine, but on TB's you need a decent one to get the power out of them. As SBD state on the site.
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16v engines don't have a low end though??


So what, when you rev the car literally doesn't move until you get past 3k ?
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yes joff thats exactly what happens
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So with a new manifold like the Janspeed one it's not gonna bring the power curve lower down just prodce more power in general.
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16v engines don't have a low end though??


So what, when you rev the car literally doesn't move until you get past 3k ?


What Broster said

No but they don't pull well at low rpms, they only start to come in at 4k properly.
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So with a new manifold like the Janspeed one it's not gonna bring the power curve lower down just prodce more power in general.


It will improve the midrange and top end revs of the car,
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yes joff thats exactly what happens


Shocking, quite literally shocking.

Unless you're just agreeing with me in a patronising tone of text...
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yes joff thats exactly what happens


Shocking, quite literally shocking.

Unless you're just agreeing with me in a patronising tone of text...


its totally true joff. ask any racer.....any real racer and hell tellyou 16v's are 16vs, theres no power below 3k.......
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Just got off the phone with Barichello and he agrees. He said 8v is the way forward.
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I agree, id even guess that 4v is better than 8v......
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were does the lambda sensor go on these 4 branch jobbies?
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in a hole
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yes....this is true
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probably wont bother with it anyway.... development has stoped on the 1.6.....

got some news from my insurance company relating to a C20XE

about 1 hour after i transfered that cash to you mr broster...

although i can probably use it anyways....
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^^^ i'll have your mantzel box then

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