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Blade_sri

posted on 14th Jul 12 at 07:42

Thanks for the information. I'm gonna have a look in currys, I need to buy a fridge so just gonna have a play around and look. Don't want to buy a cheap set that will make it look poor or not last, I'm sure I read some where that there buy your old TVs? Or is this better to sell else were?


John

posted on 9th Jul 12 at 10:25

Only smart hub feature I use is the DLNA player, which I just access via the source button anyway and not through smart hub.


Balling

posted on 9th Jul 12 at 10:23

quote:
Originally posted by _Allan_
I suppose the hardware used for TV is a better spec than the standard LED/LCD?

No. Active shutter 3D does not require any hardware specific functions, except for sync device for the glasses. The screen it self is technically no different than a non-3D screen.
When 3D was first introduced SONY actually made it available on some of their higher end pre-3D TV's with the purchase of a pair of glasses and an external sync device.

As for the SMARThub I really find it slow, illogical and messy. I have an Apple TV connected and can switch to that faster than the SMARThub can load.
Tried to watch 3D trailers from the hub, but had to give up as even after 56K style load times, the video and sound quality was just terrible.


_Allan_

posted on 9th Jul 12 at 10:01

I like the Smart Hub feature on the Samsung. Limited use yes, You Tube app is alright for a quick browse at funny vids.
The best feature is the TV is now connected to the upstairs PC via WIFI. I can access my shared movies, music folders etc... without titting around with a usb/hd or seperate dongle, WD or popcorn unit etc....

PS I've not used the 3D feature once in about 3 months of ownership despite having a free movie and glasses. It's nice to have and I suppose the hardware used for TV is a better spec than the standard LED/LCD?

[Edited on 09-07-2012 by _Allan_]


Balling

posted on 9th Jul 12 at 09:36

Yes, I agree, the "smart" functionality of my Samsung is crap and even if it worked properly, I can't see it being something I'd use.

However, looking at the higher end plasmas, paying for smart features wasn't really an option as there simply wasn't a proper TV without it.

I'm not aware of any modern LCD/LED's either, that don't have the smart features. Again, unless you go for a crappy screen.


BarnshaW

posted on 9th Jul 12 at 09:30

yes you can still purchase decent quality LED tv's which will be very good quality but as you say everything now is completely swamped with smart tv's , its not a bad thing but just a personal preference to me. You are probably right though the extra price for a smart is nowadays not even really negotiable but why pay extra for something i would never use.

I dont really need apps on a TV or Iplayer (which at the moment does not work properly on alot of tv's anyway or especially with one particular ISP)

id rather have my TV for watching TV, watching films and keep the smart and apps stuff for my PC, or just connect it up to your TV anyway?


Balling

posted on 9th Jul 12 at 09:21

quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
would still rather fork out a bit less for a non smart TV

Does that even exist any more? Seems as though this is a quite standard part of the package, unless you buy a truly crappy TV, which will have the image quality to match.


BarnshaW

posted on 9th Jul 12 at 08:38

they are good, was messing around with one of the later sets with the dualplay feature and F1 on the PS3 and I was very impressed.

would still rather fork out a bit less for a non smart TV that has a picture just as good. This smart malarky is not for me unfortunately.


Jambo

posted on 9th Jul 12 at 07:50

Barndoor, the latest LG 3dV advertised in the cinema looks boss.


BarnshaW

posted on 9th Jul 12 at 07:42

3D is well overated imo, nearly all customers I speak to use it once or twice or when they have family around and thats it.


John

posted on 8th Jul 12 at 16:00

Agree that's a waste of money, said it in my first reply, definitely wouldn't buy a TV just for 3D.

If you buy an otherwise good TV though it'll have 3D now anyway.


Balling

posted on 8th Jul 12 at 15:56

quote:
Originally posted by John
Not really a waste of money. If yo'uve bought a decent TV it'll have 3D.

I think he meant, that upgrading purely for the 3D feature is a waste of money.

Which is true, to some extent, as it's mostly a gimmick and few people will use it very often...


John

posted on 8th Jul 12 at 11:17

quote:
Originally posted by WATSON

Waste of money if you arent going to use the feature or aint into 3D films ect.


Not really a waste of money. If yo'uve bought a decent TV it'll have 3D.


Tiger

posted on 8th Jul 12 at 11:00

I love my Panasonic 42" 1080p 3D tv, use it all the time (mainly gaming but also 3D Blurays) can highly recommend purchasing if you have the money.


WATSON

posted on 6th Jul 12 at 13:42

I replaced our standard samsung 50" plasma for a 55" samsung 3D television for the simple fact i thought we would use the 3D feature.. Its been used once for around 5 minutes :lol:

Waste of money if you arent going to use the feature or aint into 3D films ect.


Balling

posted on 6th Jul 12 at 08:16

4K isn't within reach yet, unfortunately.

Just to erase a common misconception, a 3D TV is just a regular TV with 3D capability.
That a TV has 3D tells nothing at all about the general quality of the screen.
That your misses loved "the 3D tellys" basically means she loves every TV on the market, and I can guarantee you they're not all that impressive.

The better the TV, the better the 3D experience. TV's need to have good contrast, brightness and motion to deliver good 3D.
Generally this makes plasma TV's a better option for 3D and in general a more cost effective solution (sacrificing some design, though).

Passive vs. active 3D is a huge debate.
Active 3D halves the refresh rate of the TV and the glasses makes electric lights flicker.
LCD TV's with active 3D tend to be headache inducing for a lot of people.
Passive 3D delivers much smoother motion but at the cost of resolution. The polarized glasses effectively halves the resolution of the screen leaving you with a 540p image. Passive 3D looks fantastic, but the low resolution is a huge deal breaker imo. I'll say that passive 3D shouldn't be considered unless in a 4K TV. So not yet.

As for the usability, I've actually used 3D a lot more than I'd expect, but for one application only: gaming.
The films available are generally post-converted shit, that has little or no depth. The true benefit of 3D in movies comes with animated features, and there's just not that many out yet.
Gaming however is a different story. I've spent hours on Crysis 2, Resistance 3 and Killzone 3 playing in 3D and it's fantastic. The FPS experience really benefits from the extra dimension.

As for what you should buy, you really need to decide if you want to go the LCD or the plasma route as well as what size TV you want.


Reecemac

posted on 5th Jul 12 at 21:08

4K is high res, this shows it best.



Reecemac

posted on 5th Jul 12 at 21:07

Try both active and passive, but personally I prefer the passive. I have a active Samsung in the frontroom and passive LG in the bedroom and prefer the LG but as said you will probably use the 3d a couple times max, theres just not enough content out there. Iv got about 15 3d films and 5 games but I find 3d games abit distracting tbh.


Blade_sri

posted on 5th Jul 12 at 20:45

What's 4k?


John

posted on 5th Jul 12 at 19:28

It's also not as good as the active ones.


mazdaspeed

posted on 5th Jul 12 at 18:16

I'd recommend LG's passive 3D as you get 7 3D glasses which don't require and batteries and cost next to nothing to replace. You don't get the 'flicker' that you get with active 3D sets (Panasonic, Samsung etc.)


John

posted on 5th Jul 12 at 18:13

If you are replacing your TV buy one that's got 3D. Don't go out to buy a 3D TV though.

4K will replace 3D imo.


Munchie

posted on 5th Jul 12 at 17:37

you will use 3d feature once!


Blade_sri

Icon depicting mood of post posted on 5th Jul 12 at 17:11

I'm looking to buy a 3D telly. I have a LCD 42 LG telly at the mo. But was in Tesco and was showing the other half the 3d tellys and she loved them!

So, anyone have any recommendations? What to avoid or get. Got up to 600 to spend, maybe a bit more,

Any help would be great also. I use telly for watching films and playing on the ps3, I was disappointed by the LG I have now as FIFA has a ghosting effect on it.,