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James

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 11:01

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
the other trouble with flash is with most modern browsers as default the security settings are set so you have to click on a flash object for it to work/play

another reason to avoid


You can write some Javascript to get round this. Flash is still of GAY though.


Steve

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 10:34

the other trouble with flash is with most modern browsers as default the security settings are set so you have to click on a flash object for it to work/play

another reason to avoid


James

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 09:45

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
tell him to avoid the flash, its not fashionable anymore


I disagree, as much as I hate flash, I think if you create flash components instead of writing the whole site in flash, it can look good. Although a lot of them look a bit tacky, it can be done well.


Steve

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 07:58

tell him to avoid the flash, its not fashionable anymore


Cosmo

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 01:31

most people will want some idea of a final price though, or atleast a sensible estimate. I would never get a job started without one as otherwise too many people out there will try to come back and charge you a fortune :mad:


liamC

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 01:28

I'll start doing that Dave, cheers


dave17

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 01:27

I work on per hour, only true way to get what you deserve. I make an excel document for every job, note down what i was doing (eg making initial ideas for a flyer) and then how many hours it took. Then if the client questions your charging you have that to fall back onto.


dave17

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 01:23

What Ian said, i charge about £25 an hr.


liamC

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 01:23

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
most of that stuff wont be too hard in oscommerce as a fairly good system.

Whats he do/website addy?


Yeah, I've worked with osCommerce before for another guy so I knwo how it works and stuff anyway. He sells furniture.

Ian - Whether he's doing well doesn't make a difference to me - he's a mate so I'd do it cheaper for him anyway!! Flash would only probably take me an hour...style sheet about 1-2, images 1-2, buttons, table headers 1-2, PHP, probably about 4-5.

So all in all about 13hours ish in total...plus another hour adding on what work is to be done, emails, conversations etc...so 14 in total...

Charging is the one thing that always baffles me...I am doing work for lots of people at the minute, but never know the 'standard' to charge people, per hour? per document (Letterhead, Business Cards for example) website (Per hour, per webpage) - :boggle:


Ian

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 00:57

quote:
Originally posted by liamC
is doing very well indeed.
You answered your own question.

Style sheet is 2 hours.
Images another 2.
Flash - 2-5?
Buttons/table header dont know.
Menus - depends if this is in the dynamic stuff, perhaps 1-2 hours
PHP you need to know what you are programming. Small bit might not be.

Probably 20 hours. 500 quid?


Cosmo

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 00:55

most of that stuff wont be too hard in oscommerce as a fairly good system.

Whats he do/website addy?


liamC

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 00:54

He set it up using osCommerce about a year ago and is doing very well indeed.

[Edited on 20-02-2007 by liamC]


Cosmo

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 00:50

what software is he using?


liamC

posted on 20th Feb 07 at 00:41

My mate runs his own company and has asked me to tart up his e-commerce site.

Work includes:

Editing the CSS to make the fonts through the site a bit more consistency.
Creating a few new images (New 'contact us' with telephone number for example)
Creating a flash animation in his header
Creating some new buttons
Creating and editing table header images
Editing and deleting some drop down menus and search functions
Small bit of PHP so it displays a few of his products

Haven't a clue what to charge him - any rough ideas? :boggle: