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stubbsy

posted on 21st Jan 04 at 11:14

i know courtney do the z20 conversion, dont know how much but they would probably charge you a fourtune knowing there prices


neiliosxi

posted on 21st Jan 04 at 11:02

the 1st 1 that was done had a pedal box built and all sorts, a belgium company charge 13k for 20let


Paul H

posted on 21st Jan 04 at 10:05

probably easier and cheaper to have a custom loom made


Martin_C

posted on 21st Jan 04 at 09:55

could you not just take the fly by wire out and replace it with a throttle cable.


Red_SXi

posted on 21st Jan 04 at 09:46

I want a 1.8 too :(


Nismo

posted on 21st Jan 04 at 09:37

cheaper to swap bits over its not as if there major mods that are done so its easy.


PainZ

posted on 21st Jan 04 at 09:36

but how much is a Z20LET? and where the hell could u buy it


neiliosxi

posted on 21st Jan 04 at 09:34

cossvaux do it for 4.5k i think lads :)


BeArDy

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 18:00


Each year the automobile gets just a little bit more refined as new technology replaces old. It started with "luxuries" like electric start and hydraulic brakes and continues today with direct injection, yaw control, and drive-by-wire.

Those first two items were the subjects of previous Innovations, but drive-by-wire has yet to appear in this column's Web pages. However, as a technology that already graces the C5 Corvette, Acura NSX and Toyota Tundra, it's one you can expect to see on an increasing number of new vehicles.

Like so many of today's technologies, drive-by-wire is primarily a response to tightening emission standards. As with fuel injection and integrated engine controllers, drive-by-wire systems improve engine efficiency while cutting vehicle emissions. They do this by replacing clunky and inaccurate mechanical systems with highly advanced and precise electronic sensors. Currently, drive-by-wire applications are being used to replace the throttle-cable system on newly developed cars like the models already mentioned.

These systems work by replacing conventional throttle-control systems. Instead of relying on a mechanical cable that winds from the back of the accelerator pedal, through the vehicle firewall, and onto the throttle body, drive-by-wire consists of a sophisticated pedal-position sensor that closely tracks the position of the accelerator and sends this information to the Engine Control Module (ECM). This is superior to a cable-operated throttle system for the following reasons:

By eliminating the mechanical elements and transmitting a vehicle's throttle position electronically, drive-by-wire greatly reduces the number of moving parts in the throttle system. This means greater accuracy, reduced weight, and, theoretically, no service requirements (like oiling and adjusting the throttle cable).
The greater accuracy not only improves the driving experience (increased responsiveness and consistent pedal feel regardless of outside temperature or pedal position), but it allows the throttle position to be tied closely into ECM information like fuel pressure, engine temperature and exhaust gas re-circulation. This means improved fuel economy and power delivery as well as lower exhaust emissions.
With the pedal inputs reduced to a series of electronic signals, it becomes a simple matter to integrate a vehicle's throttle with non-engine specific items like ABS, gear selection and traction control. This increases the effectiveness of these systems while further reducing the amount of moving parts, service requirements and vehicle weight.
Many of you may be saying, "Sure, this sounds great in theory. But what if the "wire" in my drive-by-wire system, um...breaks?" In other words, what if an electronic malfunction disrupts the flow of information between the throttle position sensors and the ECM? Could give a whole new meaning to the term "sticking throttle," couldn't it? The reality is that, just like fuel injection and ABS, a drive-by-wire system is only as good as the programmers and manufacturers who design it. While the first generation of fuel-injected cars had its share of technical gremlins, the fuel system of the average 1999 model is far more accurate, and dependable, than any carburetor-equipped vehicle from 20 years ago. Because drive-by-wire technology was first used on military aircraft over 10 years ago (except it was called fly-by-wire back then), you can be assured that its reliability under less-than-ideal conditions has been tested. It is now used on everything from industrial equipment (like Caterpillars) to cutting-edge ground-assault vehicles (like the upcoming Grizzly Tank).

Speaking of airplanes, many of today's jets use fly-by-wire technology for turning and braking, in addition to throttle control. Could the same thing eventually happen to cars? Could a simple joystick someday replace our steering wheel, gas pedal and brake pedal?

Naaah. That'd be like suggesting that someday cars will be able to drive themselves without any driver input...


BeArDy

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 17:57

:wave:
Basic and easyest way of puting it

the Corsa C is all sensor driven
where older engine are all cables and pulleys

fitting the engine is easy, making it work is another job, look on the net for "Drive By Wire" if u want to know more

it is poss and there may be ways around it, but atm noone has found any, MTECH are running 2 ECU's on theres

would be alot easy to run a Z20LET


M2RTY

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 14:12

enter beardy....


Stoneyginger

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 14:11

2.0 16v is a VERY much HARDER job on a corsa C due to the ECU, Beardy could explain it better.


Mug shot

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 11:59

sorry pal


Kris TD

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 11:58

quote:
Originally posted by Mug shot
quote:
Originally posted by neiliosxi
£4.5k for a 2l 16V :(


1.5k with lee mitchell


not on a corsa c mate, noone in there right mind would charge that for this conversion.


Mug shot

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 11:56

quote:
Originally posted by neiliosxi
£4.5k for a 2l 16V :(


1.5k with lee mitchell


neiliosxi

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 11:53

£4.5k for a 2l 16V :(


Paul H

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 11:52

there swapping my engine at the mo :lol:


MattyB

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 11:51

I doubt they would do an engine conversion for you. It wouldnt be a "standard" procedure anyway. I believe the only circumstances they would do such a thing, is if the block was irripairable or woteva.

U'd be better of starting from scratch on a 1.8SRi, swapping all ur bits. Or waiting for ur warrently to run out, then go for a 2.0 16v conversion :D lol

Matt


Ian

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 11:49

Its easier to swap mod bits to a new car.


PainZ

posted on 20th Jan 04 at 11:48

I have always wished i had gone for the SRi after i got my SXi, however now with my car modded, would vuax take a 1.4 or 1. engine and stick it in my car for me?

Or is it best just to buy a black corsa c sri 1.4 or 1.8 and swap all my stuff over?

cheers

pete