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[quote][i]Originally posted by Steve[/i] i know that if the plane would not move it would not lift, but the plane would move. force requires energy, and also requires opposite energy to counteract something. Think of it this way, push a toy car along a treadmill your arm will still move at the same rate and use the same amount of force to get it to the end as it would if the car were on a solid surface [/quote]
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