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wayne hiscock

posted on 18th Aug 03 at 23:48

i dont care bout the bhp.
it the torque i want

hence y i want a r6
one of the new injection ones pls lol

still can only find courtenay that do the conversion.

regal and velos dont seem to know how to use e-mail


MikeH

posted on 18th Aug 03 at 22:43

NO!!! torque is a measurement of a force in a shaft!!

You can't calculate it from air/fuel accurately because of losses.


luca2020

posted on 18th Aug 03 at 22:13

my mate said bhp is measured by the amount of air u can flow, and tourqe is measured by the amount of air/fuel mixture in the chambers


miles

posted on 18th Aug 03 at 21:39

Yeah but a throttle bodied car will have a much bigger power band, which will be more usable. Turbo's suffer with traction much more. You would need more bhp in a turbo'd car than an n/a car to be quicker.

Its hard to get your head around the difference between torque and bhp.....


Tony

posted on 18th Aug 03 at 20:40

The great thing of torque is that you FEEL it more than bhp. It throws you back into the seat as the curve kicks in. When I had my car dyno'ed, There was a slight power difference. which I didn't feel at all. What improved on the dyno was the torque curve, and I could really feel the car nipped from the lights compared to the previous runs.


MikeH

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 22:47

I may be wrong but power is simply torque over the time axis.....

Torque = force X distance = work

Power = Work / time

Therefore the only way power and torque differ is at different rpms...

Not sure if that made allot of sense :P


wayne hiscock

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 22:46

yeh but its torque i want more gains of.

bhp is for show
torque is wot wins races


miles

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 21:39

you cant really gain torque without bhp.


luca2020

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 20:33

yes turbo has more tourqe than tbs


wayne hiscock

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 20:10

not a chance of me doing diy job.

i dont car bout bhp it the torgue i want and i think turbo has more than tb's am i right


miles

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 20:02

Indeed. As long as your happy with it then cool. It must be good enough if its lasted 3 years.

I'd like to do a DIY turbo conversion on a c16xe, with custom pistons etc. But only if money wasn't an issue and it wasn't my everyday car.


DaveC

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 19:04

and u get a warranty, which was nice!! However, if i had had the time, equipment and the knowledge i do now 3 years ago, i would have done it myself, but didn't :)


DaveC

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 19:00

quote:
Originally posted by miles
So 2 head gaskets and a spacer, still not the ideal way to lower compression. If i had a conversion like that the first thing I would do is get it on the rollers. Remote oil filter kits cost less than £50...


fair enough, i'm happy with it, and can't fault it at all everything works well... guess thats what matters really


wayne hiscock

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 18:17

£3k
aprox 150bhp

for a low boost turbo i think


miles

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 17:13

So 2 head gaskets and a spacer, still not the ideal way to lower compression. If i had a conversion like that the first thing I would do is get it on the rollers. Remote oil filter kits cost less than £50...


DaveC

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 16:17

3 headgaskets? no they have a small spacer and a metal gasket either side of this to lower compression, oil fiter re-located to accomodate the turbo lower down the engine to try to get a little bit of air flow to it.

Not been tested powerwise since fitted but was around the claimed 150bhp mark, give or take... turbo runs at 8-10psi wouldn't like to push any further to be honest. Cost in the region of 3K, but as said that was 3 years ago so assume the price has come down a little since then... wouldn't want to spend that now!


miles

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 11:08

What was the spec and cost of the conversion? and power.....

Dont they use 3 head gaskets? lol


DaveC

posted on 17th Aug 03 at 00:02

courteny are expensive yes, but it has to be said in my experience they do a very good job, had the turbo conversion done on the nova GSi 3 years ago now, car has done 143000 miles on a J plate and still runs like new. Never had a problem with it at all, as for the conversion itself looks like it could have come out of the factory like it... good job

as said tho, could probably have had it done cheaper elsewhere


miles

posted on 16th Aug 03 at 19:37

Could be done DIY much better and cheaper than what courtenay offer.


big eck

posted on 16th Aug 03 at 19:08

It isnt that heavy m8 but if you want a big power 1.6 then go for tb's much more reliable.


wayne hiscock

posted on 16th Aug 03 at 19:05

i dont want a let engine.

i want 1.6 turbo.
2lt is too heavy


big eck

posted on 16th Aug 03 at 19:02

Would be cheaper gettin someone like Lee Mitchell to put a LET engine outta a calibra or cav into your corsa.


wayne hiscock

posted on 16th Aug 03 at 18:27

???


wayne hiscock

posted on 15th Aug 03 at 11:49

is it only courntenay that do it?

if so ill go for t'bs